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#1 oolongcha

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Posted 22 October 2005 - 12:43 PM

I think this series of books needs to be confronted head on - if only for somewhere for HQ to post his random pro-Pratchett comments rather than leave them cluttering up the forum biggrin.gif

So, who likes these books?
What ones have people read?
What ones are their favourite(s)?
Favourite character(s)?
What makes them good?
Are there any of the books that aren't very good at all? Why not?

One for HQ - how many has Pratchett written now...? I've lost count!

I think I've read most of the first 15, but couldn't keep up (I'll check that). The only thing I will say is that I read my first one before Pratchett was famous: I think it was Equal Rites, at a time when the number of Discworld novels was in single figures. Just.

Death is one of my favourite characters, but so are the Guards - but, as I say, I've not read any of the more recent ones.

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Posted 22 October 2005 - 02:10 PM

Death is also one of my favourite characters, and I think Mort is one of my favourite Pratchett books.

Oh yeah, anything with Rincewind in is a winner in my opinion as well biggrin.gif

I think the best things about his books are the way the characters and the world sort of not quite fit together but work really well in a strange way. If you catch my meaning.

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Posted 22 October 2005 - 02:50 PM

QUOTE (oolongcha @ Oct 22 2005, 01:43 PM)
I think this series of books needs to be confronted head on - if only for somewhere for HQ to post his random pro-Pratchett comments rather than leave them cluttering up the forum biggrin.gif



Cluttering up the forum! Cluttering up the forum!!. The man is a genius and I'm proud to display his works. biggrin.gif

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So, who likes these books?
Having spent not a little time on a forum dedicated to his scribblings, I can honestly say he fan base cuts across all levels/peoples. There seems to be no single 'type' of person that reads his stuff.


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What ones have people read?
I've read nearly all of them.

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Favourite character(s)?
Personal favorites of mine are the wizards and the librarian. Their constant sniping at each other never fails to amuse.
And the Patrician...so freaking dry

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What makes them good?
The books or the characters in the books?

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Are there any of the books that aren't very good at all?  Why not?
That's really a matter of personal taste. I don't like his 'kids' books, they are too complicated for children and not interesting enough for adults. As regards his discworld stories...Some that I have read I didn't like at first, yet after a second reading have become firm favorites. Of those I don't like the most are..
The Amazing Maurice and his Educated Rodents.
Monstrous Regiment.
Wee Free men
A Hatful of Sky

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One for HQ - how many has Pratchett written now...?  I've lost count!
I've got his latest offering in front of me now so I shall count them from the flyleaf...and the count is (without screenplays) is sixty five books. (of varying types).

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I think I've read most of the first 15, but couldn't keep up (I'll check that).  The only thing I will say is that I read my first one before Pratchett was famous: I think it was Equal Rites, at a time when the number of Discworld novels was in single figures.  Just.

My first was "Guards Guards", then "Pyramids". Then everything I could find as fast as I could buy them.

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Death is one of my favourite characters, but so are the Guards - but, as I say, I've not read any of the more recent ones.
Death is cool...but so is his daughter.

Cluttering up the forum!! I'll start singing the hedgehog song if you are not careful. In fact I'll sing it anyway

Ahem...cough cough. Ladies and gentelmen. I give you the hedgehog song. Sung in the key of G, with an orchestra of 30 kazoos.

Old Noah was mucking the Ark out one day
when he heard a great shriek from the neighboring stall.
Said he to poor Ham, who was hugging his loins,
"Ah, the hedgehog, my boy, can't be buggered at all."

Chorus (repeat after each verse)
Roll them all over and turn them around,
The hedgehog can never be buggered at all.

The sheep is a classic, as well you may find,
the llama's all right if he isn't too tall,
the donkey's a danger for standing behind,
but the hedgehog can never be buggered at all.

You may pounce on the cat as he walks on his lone,
the mole has a hole into which you can crawl,
you must blindfold the basilisk or turn into stone,
but the hedgehog can never be buggered at all.

The sow is a darling, so slick and so tight,
to cuddle and kiss as you lie next the wall,
but she don't chew the cud, so you'd better not bite,
and the hedgehog can never be buggered at all.

The squirrel requires the climbing of trees,
which puts you at risk of a slip and a fall.
The dog's man's best friend if you don't mind the fleas,
but the hedgehog can never be buggered at all.

You can do it with a frog in a puddle or pool,
though you might catch a cold in your whatchamacall-
it, or with a giraffe if you stand on a stool,
but the hedgehog can never be buggered at all.

The rhino is often... reluctant... to flirt;
the termite's a challenge because he's so small
you might wash him away with your very first squirt;
but the hedgehog can never be buggered at all.

The bonobo monkey is willing to hump:
he'll do all his friends, both the large and the small,
and he'll do it to you if you show him your rump,
but the hedgehog can never be buggered at all.

The humans are out, if you value your life:
it's incest, my son, since we're relatives all...
unless you'd make love to your very own wife!
But the hedgehog can never be buggered at all.

I don't recommend that you tackle the skunk.
I did once myself, I'm ashamed to recall;
I must have been EXtr'ordinARily drunk!
But the hedgehog can never be buggered at all.

The kangaroo's pocket can carry your tool
though her kick may propel you clean over the wall.
The platypus lurks in the muck of his pool
but the hedgehog can never be buggered at all.

The camel is likely to spit in your face,
but don't take it bad, for it ain't personAL:
he simply detests the entire human race,
and the hedgehog can never be buggered at all.

As a friend to the children, commend me the Yak;
he's perfect to start them on when they are small,
for they cannot slip off of his very broad back,
but the hedgehog can never be buggered at all.

You can take a wild ride on a wild catamount
if your ears can stand up to his wild caterwaul.
You can poke your own fist, but that really don't count,
and the hedgehog can never be buggered at all.

Take care when you lift up the elephant's tail
or beware of the fate that else may befall:
if you pick the wrong end you could wind up impaled!
But the hedgehog can never be buggered at all.

To futter the bat you must take to the air.
She'll flutter her wings and go into a stall
and pitch you off into God-only-knows-where,
but the hedgehog can never be buggered at all.

The billygoat's habits, though pungent and weird,
you've got to accept if it's him that you'd ball:
he don't use cologne, he just cums in his beard,
and the hedgehog can never be buggered at all.

The guinea pig's timid, and brainless to boot,
he's worse than no use in a ruckus or brawl,
but you can't pass him up 'cause he's so bloody cute!
But the hedgehog can never be buggered at all.

You can bugger a whale if you're willing to swim
or an ORanguTANG if you hang from a limb;
or make time with a snail if you slow... to... a... crawl...,
... but the hedgehog can never be buggered at all!

Final chorus





Or how about "A wizards staff has a nob on the end"?

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Posted 23 October 2005 - 08:51 AM

how can you pick just one book they are all so good
i also love death, Rincewind and of course the witches granny is great she is my idol lol
i am one of these people who reread books and i must say i have read them all more then once but have not got the new one yet sad.gif

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Posted 23 October 2005 - 09:11 AM

QUOTE (ice maiden @ Oct 23 2005, 09:51 AM)
how can you pick just one book they are all so good
i also love death, Rincewind and of course the witches granny is great she is my idol lol
i am one of these people who reread books and i must say i have read them all more then once but have not got the new one yet sad.gif

His latest one "Thud"...is ok. Not great, but ok.

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Posted 23 October 2005 - 12:20 PM

I've since worked out that I've read the first 17 of the Discworld novels.


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What makes them good?


The books or the characters in the books?


The books - I mean, is it the characters? Is is it that they satirise this world? Or are they just pure escapism?

I think that they are very entertaining (and part of that is because of the strong characters - I tend to remember those more than the actual plots of the books), but, beneath all that, Pratchett makes fun of some of the things that go on in this world - and I think he does that very well.

I also read somewhere that one of the things about his books is the lack of repetition - and I think in the few that I've read, that's certainly true. They are different novels, whereas other prolilfic writers tend to write the same sort of stuff, with the same sort of things happening.

I've also found a list of Discworld Novels in chronological order:

1 1983 The Colour of Magic

2 1986 The Light Fantastic

3 1987 Equal Rites

4 1987 Mort

5 1988 Sourcery

6 1988 Wyrd Sisters

7 1989 Pyramids

8 1989 Guards! Guards!

9 1990 Eric

10 1990 Moving Pictures

11 1991 Reaper Man

12 1991 Witches Abroad

13 1992 Small Gods

14 1992 Lords and Ladies

15 1993 Men At Arms

16 1994 Soul Music

17 1994 Interesting Times

18 1995 Maskerade

19 1996 Feet of Clay

20 1996 Hogfather

21 1997 Jingo

22 1998 The Last Continent

23 1998 Carpe Jugulum

24 1999 The Fifth Elephant

25 2000 The Truth

26 2001 Thief of Time

27 2001 The Last Hero

28 2002 Night Watch

29 2003 Monstrous Regiment

30 2004 Going Postal

31 2005 Thud!



It seems from a brief web search that Reaper Man is regarded as the best by 'the fans' - is it?? I think I would put Mort and Guards! Guards! higher.

(I remember buying Reaper Man when it came out in paperback, just as Small Gods came out - but I didn't realise it was that long ago sad.gif)

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Posted 24 October 2005 - 10:07 AM

moving pictures was his best, just loved all the references to the films in it, espescially the 7 dwarfs reference, just so funny. Carpe Jugulum was the last one i read.

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Posted 24 October 2005 - 04:44 PM

QUOTE (easylife @ Oct 24 2005, 11:07 AM)
moving pictures was his best, just loved all the references to the films in it, espescially the 7 dwarfs reference, just so funny. Carpe Jugulum was the last one i read.

He messed around with all the big pictures and big names in 'Moving pictures'...Marylin Monroe carrying an ape up the tower of art (Empire state building) with the wizards firing from a broomstick...brilliant imagry.

Carpe Juglum...standing in the fiery wings of a phoenix...the ultimate test.

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 09:42 AM

ok folks question time




just name the book of which these are the opening words




1 this is the bright candlelit room...


2 the sun rose slowly, as if it wasn.t sure it was worth the effort.



3 watch....



4 this is the discworld...


5 the wind howled.

6 there was a man and he....

7 the sun rose slowly,as if it wasn't sure it was worth all the effort. (no not a mistake a differant book)

8 this is a story about memory.

9 the morris dance is common to all inhabited worlds in the multiverse.


10 this is the room where lives slip away...


good luck biggrin.gif

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 01:18 PM

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ok folks question time


I'll get you for this just see if I don't! wink.gif
I've had to actually use my memory...it hurt too...AND I had to go through all the books!

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just name the book of which these are the opening words
1 this is the bright candlelit room...

..where lifetimers are stored - shelf upon shelf of them. (Mort)

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2 the sun rose slowly, as if it wasn.t sure it was worth the effort.

Don't know.

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3 watch....

This is space. It's sometimes called the final frontier. (Moving Pictures)

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4 this is the discworld...

...which travels through space on the backs of four elephants..(Witches Abroad.)

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5 the wind howled.

..Lightning stabbed at the earth erratically like an inefficient assasin. (Wyrd Sisters)
OR Maskerade they both start the same

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6 there was a man and he....

Not sure...but I think it's from the book Sourcery.

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7 the sun rose slowly,as if it wasn't sure it was worth all the effort. (no not a mistake a different book)

Don't know.

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8 this is a story about memory.

And this much can be remembered..(Soul Music)

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9 the morris dance is common to all inhabited worlds in the multiverse.
..It is danced under blue skies to celebrate the quickening of the soil...(Reaper man)


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10 this is the room where lives slip away...



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good luck


Some I can't find/remember someone else will have to answer them...good questions smile.gif

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 02:04 PM

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7 the sun rose slowly,as if it wasn't sure it was worth all the effort. (no not a mistake a differant book)


Another Disc day dawned, but very gradually, and this is why. The light fantastic








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Posted 25 October 2005 - 02:16 PM

QUOTE (easylife @ Oct 25 2005, 03:04 PM)
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7 the sun rose slowly,as if it wasn't sure it was worth all the effort. (no not a mistake a differant book)


Another Disc day dawned, but very gradually, and this is why. The light fantastic

Correct...I've just found the book in the bathroom and checked.

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 05:01 PM

well done so far very impressed so that leaves




2 the sun rose slowly, as if it wasn.t sure it was worth the effort.




10 this is the room where lives slip away...



can i just say i kinda cheated with those think of all his books biggrin.gif

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Posted 27 October 2005 - 09:43 AM

ok answers but don't yell i did say i cheated


2 the sun rose slowly, as if it wasn.t sure it was worth the effort. the light fantastic ;the graphic novel;


10 this is the room where lives slip away... mort;a discworld big comic



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