Jason Chapman
Jun 5 2009, 02:46 PM
Its not looking good for Mr Brown, espceially this weekend in particular. Its the 65th anniversary of D-Day and Obama is in town, the rest of Europe seems to be sucking up to him at the moment, and laughing at us for our joke of a government.
charlesr
Jun 5 2009, 08:35 PM
Yes its quite a carry on, ive never seen anything quite like it, do you think Brown survive this?
aboutblank1976
Jun 5 2009, 10:20 PM
I dont really see how he can survive this. However lets not get carried away on a media hyped frenzy of how the local elcetions have gone? Tory Boy has gained no more ground than Howard did (actually a 6% loss from last year) - the Lib Dems have lost councillors too. Maybe Sunday night will glean more interesting news.
Jason Chapman
Jun 6 2009, 07:22 AM
He'll hang on for the weekend, there's no way he'll want to meet P Obama and other European leaders this weekend as a disgraced and ousted Prime Minister, it’ll look bad for him, our government and the people of the UK.
I watched Brown’s entire press conference yesterday, the media certainly gave him a grilling, but not the grilling I would have given him.
Here’s an interesting bit of news for you, I was watching an interview with the Russian owner of the London Evening Standard yesterday. He was asked what he thought of the whole situation and he went on about how much better off we are than the Ruskies. But right at the end of his interview he stated ‘how wonderful it is that the British people have such a choice in the up and coming elections’ Now whether or not it was a simple gaff I don’t know, but the face on the News reader painted a huge picture, he laughed nervously and gave the other guy a look that said ‘you bloody Russian moron, you’ve just let the cat out of the bag’ So if there is an election you heard it here first on BUKF.
I need more followers on my Twitter account, I have almost a thousand followers on my scifi-design.com one, but my ordinary Jason Chapman account I have 2 followers, that’s got to change.
charlesr
Jun 6 2009, 11:41 AM
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there's no way he'll want to meet P Obama and other European leaders this weekend as a disgraced and ousted Prime Minister, it’ll look bad for him, our government and the people of the UK.
I can see the point regarding meeting Obama, but I really don’t think that Brown cares a damn what the British people think, hence no referendum on Europe.
[quote]
Here’s an interesting bit of news for you, I was watching an interview with the Russian owner of the London Evening Standard yesterday. He was asked what he thought of the whole situation and he went on about how much better off we are than the Ruskies. But right at the end of his interview he stated ‘how wonderful it is that the British people have such a choice in the up and coming elections’ Now whether or not it was a simple gaff I don’t know, but the face on the News reader painted a huge picture, he laughed nervously and gave the other guy a look that said ‘you bloody Russian moron, you’ve just let the cat out of the bag’ So if there is an election you heard it here first on BUKF. [/quote]
LOL, I would have enjoyed watching that myself, shame I missed it.
I need more followers on my Twitter account, I have almost a thousand followers on my scifi-design.com one, but my ordinary Jason Chapman account I have 2 followers, that’s got to change.
Please excuse my ignorance, but what is Twitter?
Jason Chapman
Jun 6 2009, 12:37 PM
No Way you’ve not heard of Twitter yet!
twitterI don’t fully understand it myself. You only have 140 characters to write something with. Not very useful if you like writing on forums like BUKF. However it’s all about networking, if you can promote yourself enough to get say 10,000 followers, then you can sell a product.
I’m using Twitter to promote my
website and I will be using it to promote a book I’m writing ‘The Angel Committee’
Getting back to the topic in hand, I think the final blow could come for Brown when all the election results are announced, it will be the final death knell.
Jason Chapman
Jun 8 2009, 06:45 AM
Looks like the British people have had their say. The BNP and UKIP have come ahead of New Labour. I’m sure the major political parties are sweating buckets by now, and wondering if they should call a general election at all. In fact that’s the only reason keeping Brown in Number 10, because the powers that be are fearing a revolt by the voters. If Cameron wants to win the next election then he has GOT to listen to the people of the UK and consider things like capping immigration and putting police back onto the streets.
charlesr
Jun 8 2009, 06:00 PM
The only trouble is Jason that even now Labour are still in denial, they have not once admitted that immigration and positive discrimination are the big vote loosers, they are doggedly sticking to their ridiculous idea that people are not voting for them because of the economic downturn and the corrupt expenses claims. They are so rigidly sticking in this excuse, that i am actually starting to think that they are genuinely misguided, although common sense tells me that they are just trying to bluff their way through.
UKIP did a lot better than i expected, but that is good for the majority of people in Britain, the BNP success is less than i expected, but even as it was, it is still good news for the majority of British people, the policies of both UKIP and the BNP are acceptable to the people of Britain generally, and this has been the opportunity for those people to show their feelings and thereby telling the main three parties that if political parties want their vote, then they must start giving them what they want, or else. If the main three don't alter their policies, then we will see UKIP and the BNP will just keep on taking more votes.
Give the people what they want or pay the price, its as easy as that, its also insulting to peoples intelligence to hear mainstream politicians ridicule other politician who as they say, are offering to respect the populist policies, as we all know Populist policies are the policies that British people want. The arrogant politicians think that we are not intelligent enough to understand that.
No i actually have never heard of twitter, does that make me a bit of a dim wit?
rederic
Jun 8 2009, 07:44 PM
QUOTE(charlesr @ Jun 8 2009, 06:00 PM)

The only trouble is Jason that even now Labour are still in denial, they have not once admitted that immigration and positive discrimination are the big vote loosers, they are doggedly sticking to their ridiculous idea that people are not voting for them because of the economic downturn and the corrupt expenses claims. They are so rigidly sticking in this excuse, that i am actually starting to think that they are genuinely misguided, although common sense tells me that they are just trying to bluff their way through.
UKIP did a lot better than i expected, but that is good for the majority of people in Britain, the BNP success is less than i expected, but even as it was, it is still good news for the majority of British people, the policies of both UKIP and the BNP are acceptable to the people of Britain generally, and this has been the opportunity for those people to show their feelings and thereby telling the main three parties that if political parties want their vote, then they must start giving them what they want, or else. If the main three don't alter their policies, then we will see UKIP and the BNP will just keep on taking more votes.
Give the people what they want or pay the price, its as easy as that, its also insulting to peoples intelligence to hear mainstream politicians ridicule other politician who as they say, are offering to respect the populist policies, as we all know Populist policies are the policies that British people want. The arrogant politicians think that we are not intelligent enough to understand that.
No i actually have never heard of twitter, does that make me a bit of a dim wit?
Do you honestly believe that the ghastly racist policies of the BNP are acceptable to the British people, especially when we've just been remembering the huge sacrifices made by thousands of allied soldiers who tried to rid Europe of beasts like the BNP?
Jason Chapman
Jun 8 2009, 08:09 PM
Labour’s denial will cost them dearly. By sticking to his Guns Brown is not only going to lose the next election but also in danger of destroying the Labour party altogether. When New Labour were elected in 1997 the Tories were left decimated, no decent leader or structure. Many people thought it would take a long time for them to regroup, but they have managed it in 12 years. If Brown doesn’t do the decent thing and quit then it would be far worse for New Labour they may be left out in the political wilderness for decades.
As for the BNP and UKIP, I think it’s still difficult to speculate why they got a lot of votes, the most common answer out of protest to the status quo. I do think many people who voted for the BNP do not realise that you cannot change a system overnight. Even if they did get in, they simply won’t be able to just round up everybody who is not supposed to be here and put them on a boat. Immigration has been happening for decades now, there are millions of foreigners entrenched over here. If the BNP chose to go down this dark road then it’ll mean civil unrest not seen in the country. The BNP is definately the road to hell.
I will keep my eye on the media to see where this plays out.
charlesr
Jun 11 2009, 09:45 PM
QUOTE
Do you honestly believe that the ghastly racist policies of the BNP are acceptable to the British people,
I think the electoral results answer your question.
Jason.
The BNP will never get in to power, it can not ever happen, UKIP though from this election i think, have shown that they are a real challenge to the big three, and that can only be good for democracy. The more people there are asking for our vote, the more they have to offer us to get it . I will continue to vote UKIP for the foreseeable future, and hope they continue their success, i am now starting to believe that UKIP might be the turning point and are our best hope of getting out of Europe.
I frequent a British politics forum, that seems to be filled with UKIP and BNP members, and i cant believe how much Nigel Farage is disliked by the UKIP supporters there. He really gets some stick, and i cant see why, ok he looks a looks a bit of a wuss, but he seems to put himself across quite well in TV shows such as Question time, and on youtube, one things for sure, no one can deny what he has achieved for UKIP, so why he is so disliked i just dont know
Has anyone here considered voting UKIP?
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