orphadeus
Feb 16 2010, 02:31 PM
David Cameron says if the Conservatives win he is going to devolve decision making to grass roots local level, let the people on the ground decide what to do and free things up from central government control.
David Cameron is trying to force a local conservative branch to have his friend Joanne Cash as their candidate, imposing centralised control.
Which is the real David Cameron?
rederic
Feb 16 2010, 06:41 PM
No political party can keep their grubby hands out of education. It's just too convenient for diverting attention away from matters they'd rather not talk about.
orphadeus
Feb 24 2010, 05:20 PM
I think David Cameron wants to control the police. Thats dangerous. Think Michael Howard releasing heroin barons who were friends of his family by Royal Perogative, Boris Johnson and Darius Guppy, the cocaine culture in Boris' Town Hall etc. Its not a good idea to have police carrying out the dirty work of political masters. If David Cameron or Boris Johnson control the police and can sack the commander, will the police be able to investigate them and their friends without fear of reprisal? Its a recipee for currupt.
charlesr
Mar 14 2010, 12:51 AM
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David Cameron says if the Conservatives win he is going to devolve decision making to grass roots local level, let the people on the ground decide what to do and free things up from central government control.
David Cameron said he would take Britain out of Europe if they won the election, he clearly lied then, so what makes you believe anything else he has said?
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David Cameron is trying to force a local conservative branch to have his friend Joanne Cash as their candidate, imposing centralised control.
Which is exactly what Blair did when he and his friends infiltrated the Labour party, once again, it would appear that there is no difference between Labour and the Conservatives.
charlesr
Mar 31 2010, 04:48 PM
Since this thread is about David Cameron, i an surprised that no one has mentioned this story, the Times on line, published a story saying that David Cameron could be related to Moses. That's only maybe of course, and a very vague maybe too it would appear, but interesting non the less.
So if the Conservatives win the coming election the big question might be, Can he lead us out of our slavery to debt?
orphadeus
Apr 30 2010, 09:55 AM
Probably not if he wants to spend £100 bn on Trident.
aboutblank1976
Apr 30 2010, 04:52 PM
He can only do exactly the same as Brown or Clegg to lead us out into proper recovery and eventual addressing of the debts and deficits of the country. The same being massive spending cuts!
charlesr
May 4 2010, 11:25 AM
I watched Cameron making his pitch for the working class vote last week and in all honesty, he did come across as a honest decent caring man and if i were a young politically inexperienced person, i would probably have been persuaded to give the Conservatives a try.
But now of course after seeing how honest and caring Blair came across to begin with, it is obvious that no matter how honest and caring some one appears to be pre election, does not mean that he will prove to be honest and caring after the election, Blair has proved that.
In many ways i see Cameron as another Blair, i do believe it is quite possible the Conservatives have picked Cameron deliberately because he resembles the young fresh faced Blair as he was when he and his two cohorts Brown and Mandelson first seized power, and hoping for the same result as the young fresh faced Blair got at that time.
The more i think about this political situation, the more it appears to match that first election when Blair seized power.
Back then the Conservatives had been in power for a long long time, just as labour have now. Back then, the Conservative government was racked with sleaze, just as labour is now. Back then, the Conservative government were handing contract after contract to their business friends, just as labour have been doing recently. Back then the Conservatives were arrogantly riding rough shod over the British people as a whole, just as Labour have been doing. Back then, along came a fresh faced, clean cut young man who appeared to honest and genuine, who strode forward and promised to right all the wrongs, And now we have another fresh faced, clean cut young man, promising to right all the wrongs, but this time its a Conservative.
Remember the ring of confidence around Blairs (Bamby's) gleaming white toothed smile? And that catchy little slogan, "Things can only get better?" How wrong can a Nation be? Only as i am typing now have i just realised, that the last American election also went very much the same way.
Has anyone else noticed these similarities? Or am i seeing things that are not actually there?
orphadeus
May 12 2010, 12:43 AM
We'll soon find out the real David Cameron as he is Prime Minister.
charlesr
May 12 2010, 08:38 AM
Yes indeed, Cameron has the chance to be the fist ever honest trustworthy Prime Minister, he has a clean slate, no baggage at all, or at least as far as i am aware. Its going to be interesting to watch how things work out from here on in.
If he lives up to his promises, he will be the right man for the job, but its that little word that means so much IF, that is the bug bear. Fingers crossed then for Cameron, lets hope he is the real McCoy.
Is anyone aware of any potential pitfalls with Cameron?
aboutblank1976
May 13 2010, 08:12 PM
I havent heard anything bad other than the predictable expenses row which is hardly individual to Cameron. He's a better potential than Clegg as Cameron somehow seems to have more teeth than Clegg and love them or hate them the Tories have some seasoned veterans in their numbers like Clarke and Hague who bring a little experience that the Lib Dems just wouldn't ever have.
Sadly I think peoples decisions about his goverment will be heavily influenced by the spending cuts pending for Autumn and beyond. I think ominous so far in all that has been spoken about policy wise is the general lack of any talk regarding the NHS - I doubt they can afford to increase spending year on year on without a serious shake up of the way the NHS is run now!
charlesr
May 26 2010, 11:46 PM
Sorry about this, I don’t know how the heck I missed it.
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I haven’t heard anything bad other than the predictable expenses row which is hardly individual to Cameron. He's a better potential than Clegg as Cameron somehow seems to have more teeth than Clegg and love them or hate them the Tories have some seasoned veterans in their numbers like Clarke and Hague who bring a little experience that the Lib Dems just wouldn't ever have.
In all honesty, I have absolutely no respect for old time Conservatives at all, but there is some thing about Cameron, that makes me think that there just might be a spark of decency in the man, I just hope I am not wrong
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Sadly I think peoples decisions about his government will be heavily influenced by the spending cuts pending for Autumn and beyond. I think ominous so far in all that has been spoken about policy wise is the general lack of any talk regarding the NHS - I doubt they can afford to increase spending year on year on without a serious shake up of the way the NHS is run now!
I would agree with that, the cuts are the be all and all regarding popularity of this government. The only thing I remember about the NHS and Cameron, was Cameron saying, the NHS is safe with us. That of course remains to be seen, but regarding the NHS and cuts, it has been said that middle management within the NHS is heavily and unnecessarily bloated, so cuts in middle management are almost certain.
What's your gut feeling regarding Cameron? Good guy or Bad guy?
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